A bit defincent STR {found it!}

[Neomage]

Despite the fact that my chocobo is blue and thus a palfrey, expected to excel in mental stats, it now reads a bit deficent STR, substandart END, and poor for the other two ^.^

[Anson]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I'm still trying to figure out why all my chocobo's stats are all still at poor. My guess was that its because I schedule all care plans for my chocobo equally, and if a stat is lowered the same amount by one care plan that it is raised by another, then that could be why my chocobos stats haven't raised. Anyone know if they can verify this?

[Thott]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I think if you do them all equal then they will all level around the same time so my new choco is set up to Run Sleep Listen to music Sleep and then Run again
Hoping for something to level this time around

[Greylynx]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I'm still trying to figure out why all my chocobo's stats are all still at poor. My guess was that its because I schedule all care plans for my chocobo equally, and if a stat is lowered the same amount by one care plan that it is raised by another, then that could be why my chocobos stats haven't raised. Anyone know if they can verify this?

Yes I believe you are right. I have focused exclusively on activities such as walking, delivering packages, exercising alone, etc and have a chocobo with Average Strength, A Bit Deficient Endurance, and Poor everything else.

My wife spent her time trying to do all activities equally and didn't get any stats raised. She now follows my plan and her chocobo has started to increase stats in Strength and Endurance. We fed our chocos the same food the entire time so this seems to indicate that trying to get your choco to do alittle of everything really doesn't get you anywhere.

[DakAttack]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}



I've noticed my chick's energy resets everyday, but is that the same with normal chocobos? Is it important to make sure the chocobo gets to rest regularly, or can you just suppliment it with items?

[Sabaron]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I've been following a care plan that I assumed would give me END and DIS, but it's not working out very well. This is the care plan:

As a chick: Basic only
Young: Delivery only
Adult: Treasure Hunting + Delivery alternating in roughly equal amounts.

Following this care plan, my chocobo now has "Poor" in everything except strength oddly enough which is substandard. Duchesse absolutely -has- to race every day or she gets cranky. She hates me for making her hunt treasure, and with her racing, walking around looking for the whistle, and listening to stories occasionally, I haven't had much bar left for Watch-over affection.

As for the stamina bar, yes it resets every day. Take note of the energy drop from the various activities. The bigger the drop of the day's activities the lower your chocobo's bar will be when you talk to the handler. I have never used a Gregarious Worm (and would not do so unless the handler said that my chocobo was "receptive") but both it and the Chocolixir will restore the chocobo's energy immediately. I would use up the partially depleted bar and then feed Chocolixir (if I had one).

Chocolixir is a pain in the butt. On Asura, they're ungodly expensive, and when I tried to collect Royal Jelly, I found each time, at least 3-6 very high level people camping them. Twice, I ran the bee circuit several times and didn't see a single bee. It's awful. Hopefully this will calm down, but at the moment, the bees stay dead and the demand exceeds the supply.

Square stated that they were going to be adjusting the attribute growth parameters in the next update so that chocobos get better faster. I think it's kinda crappy that even people who've been doing packages since young are still getting mediocre stats. I mean...a fully Package trained, raced, carrot-fed chocobo should look pretty bombtacular well before retirement.

[Taskmage]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

Delivery raises strength, not endurance, so that'd be why your str is up.

Yeah, energy refills every day as long as you keep them fed. I've found resting is never necessary unless you're using it to try to kick a status ailment.

[Sabaron]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I think if you do them all equal then they will all level around the same time so my new choco is set up to Run Sleep Listen to music Sleep and then Run again
Hoping for something to level this time around

I wouldn't advise Sleeping your chocobo ever. There's really no reason to. The fact that they might sleep for upwards of 8 days is awful. Just bite the bullet and buy the remedy for whatever ailment they have rather than sleeping them to fix a tummy ache. The chocobo's energy will be full at the beginning of the day if you feed them to "completely full" daily. There's no need to sleep. Even Gysahl greens are good enough to refill energy. Just buy from the merchant conveniently positioned in or near the chocobo stables.

[Sabaron]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

Delivery raises strength, not endurance, so that'd be why your str is up.

Yeah, energy refills every day as long as you keep them fed. I've found resting is never necessary unless you're using it to try to kick a status ailment.

Package Delivery specifically, I should've stated that. The combination works out so that I end up with partial cancellation on my Discernment, full cancellation on my Endurance, and no cancellation on my Strength. I was hoping to build up a pool of Endurance from the initial phases (chick/young), but sadly, attribute growth absolutely blows right now and I ended the chick/young phases with Poor everything despite the aforementioned care plan. Needless to say, I was incredibly dissapointed. The basic care plan is the only one that combines DIS/END. The idea was to meld and, ultimately have equal parts of, Basic, Treasure, and Package resulting in Good strength, ok Endurance, and Good Discernment for a fast treasure hunting chocobo with nice durability for treasure hunting runs. I'm sure I'll have a lot better luck with my second chocobo with the increase post-patch. My other idea for breeding is this method which takes two people.

Feather color is immaterial--we are only looking at stats unless feather color in some way dictates, adjusts, caps, or augments the growth of a chocobo's stats.

Player 1 raises the following chocobo:
Chick: Exercise alone/group alternate. Eats Carrot Paste until full daily. [Edit]
Young: Carry Packages. Eats Vomp Carrots until full daily. Races until tired.
Adult: Carry Packages. Eats Vomp Carrots until full daily. Races until tired.
(If it is determined that Poor receptivity chocobos fail to breed with sufficient frequency, it may be necessary to do "Act in a Play". Otherwise, screw Receptivity and follow above exclusively).

Player 2 raises the following chocobo:
Chick: Listen to music. Eats Zegham Carrots (not paste) until full daily. Stories until tired.
Young: Plays with Children. Eats Zegham Carrots until full daily. Stories until tired.
Adult: Dig for Treasure. Eats Zegham Carrots until full daily. Stories until tired.

Additional note: Race only to relieve boredom at whatever rate the chocobo wants. Sometimes when racing Duchesse daily, she still gets bored, but it always wears off by the next day even if she doesn't race. This may be a result of something else like my Dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig care plan.

During adulthood, these two chocobos should be bred as frequently as possible. The earlier eggs are for sale, and the last two eggs are for the two breeders--decision based on die roll. Note that since eggs are Ex, I'm suggesting that the chococards be sold as a pair rather than the egg itself. If the breeding process is mutually exclusive of any other processes, and it's possible to produce two eggs on the same RL day, then the two breeder eggs should be produced on the very last day before the chocobos' retirement.

It is, of course, entirely possible from punnet square crap that the babies inherit traits randomly from one or the other parent. Therefore, some of the eggs will be runts, inheriting the "Poors" from both parents, most mediocre, inheriting 1-3 good traits and the highly prized, super chocobos may inherit all four of their parents' godliest attributes. If SE based breeding on averages, well then, I guess you'll just end up with average everything if there's a lower cap for attributes or 0 everything if there isn't. I really hope this isn't the way it works. I prefer the idea of chocobo genetics and a lovely egg lottery as described above.

This breeding program would be great as an LS project since you need lots of stables for the babies. Runts can be dumped as soon as it becomes apparent (yes, yes, I know you love your chocobo but we're breeding here). These would be the chocobo's you'd get neutered and then sell in the newspaper without pedigree for $100-500 each as pets not show-quality chocobos, so let the VCS set them up for adoption by some Buburimu Grape farm or somewhere where lil' Timmy gets to run around with them until they get rabies and he has to pop a cap in him. ^^

[Taskmage]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

That sucks to hear. I was hoping to raise endurance and discernment too, but it seems like any combination of physical and mental stats is fated not to work out.

[Loial]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

Since the chocobo became a teen, I've had it on a regimen of delivering packages daily, and once it became an adult, I had it do 2 deliver packages, 2 deliver messages, repeat.

I feed 2 vomp only + whatever status effect food is needed (gausebit, tokkopekko, etc)

Day 42(?), average strength, a bit deficient endurance, poor in the rest.

Average strength is still much much slower than a rental chocobo.

[Anson]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I've been following a care plan that I assumed would give me END and DIS, but it's not working out very well. This is the care plan:

As a chick: Basic only
Young: Delivery only
Adult: Treasure Hunting + Delivery alternating in roughly equal amounts.

Following this care plan, my chocobo now has "Poor" in everything except strength oddly enough which is substandard. Duchesse absolutely -has- to race every day or she gets cranky. She hates me for making her hunt treasure, and with her racing, walking around looking for the whistle, and listening to stories occasionally, I haven't had much bar left for Watch-over affection.

As for the stamina bar, yes it resets every day. Take note of the energy drop from the various activities. The bigger the drop of the day's activities the lower your chocobo's bar will be when you talk to the handler. I have never used a Gregarious Worm (and would not do so unless the handler said that my chocobo was "receptive") but both it and the Chocolixir will restore the chocobo's energy immediately. I would use up the partially depleted bar and then feed Chocolixir (if I had one).

Chocolixir is a pain in the butt. On Asura, they're ungodly expensive, and when I tried to collect Royal Jelly, I found each time, at least 3-6 very high level people camping them. Twice, I ran the bee circuit several times and didn't see a single bee. It's awful. Hopefully this will calm down, but at the moment, the bees stay dead and the demand exceeds the supply.

Square stated that they were going to be adjusting the attribute growth parameters in the next update so that chocobos get better faster. I think it's kinda crappy that even people who've been doing packages since young are still getting mediocre stats. I mean...a fully Package trained, raced, carrot-fed chocobo should look pretty bombtacular well before retirement.

I really think you should consider changing your plan. I haven't really tried it too much yet, but from the looks of it, your chocobo's affections levels are lowered so much when doing care plans you get payed for that eventually, I think you'll find it quite impossible to restore it after doing it every day. Affection is a vital part of chocobo raising, so I think you should only have your chocobo do care plans that you're paid for when it's affection level is "consideres you its parent." Then do a some different care plans for the next couple days, all the while building your affection up, and then do another care plan that you get paid for, again making sure that your chocobo's affection level is "considers you its parent."

[Macht]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

Yeah, mine seems to want to race a lot recently too. It's got A Bit deficient in Discernment and substandard in Receptivitiy. I had raised mine using Music since it responded a lot to it. Oddly enough in it's adolescent stage it wasn't intrested in music and such, it seemed to respond to running and such. Now in the adult phase it seems to be back to doing better with Receptivity and Discernment type things. However it still wants to race all the time.

Yeah, If you are trying to raise all 4 stats then really the only way it seems that would work is to do Basic Care it's entire life. Then my guess by the time it retires it'll be like maybe Average on everything. Otherwise when you can start doing Carry Packages + Deliver Messages to greatly improve speed & chocobo riding time.

If Durability is were you can accept it being at and want to raise the other three then it would be: Carry Packages + Act + Dig + Deliver. When you get back to Carry Packages again the other 3 will of slightly improved with Strength getting the most benefit and durability ending neutral.

[Sabaron]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

I really think you should consider changing your plan. I haven't really tried it too much yet, but from the looks of it, your chocobo's affections levels are lowered so much when doing care plans you get payed for that eventually, I think you'll find it quite impossible to restore it after doing it every day. Affection is a vital part of chocobo raising, so I think you should only have your chocobo do care plans that you're paid for when it's affection level is "consideres you its parent." Then do a some different care plans for the next couple days, all the while building your affection up, and then do another care plan that you get paid for, again making sure that your chocobo's affection level is "considers you its parent."

Nope, I'm sticking to the plan. I'll just have to cut down on the walks and stories and increase our "quality time". She was injured last night, so instead of doing her regular routine, I just Watched Over her until her stamina bar was close to depleted.

Experimental chocobo. Experimental chocobo. I'm not changing the plan until it's finished or I've fouled my results. Next time around, I'll try something different. ^^

[Neomage]

Re: A bit defincent STR {found it!}

O..M...G...

I didn't realize this was possible...

Strength is back down to Substandard. On top of that, on the same day, my chocobo fell in love, got a stomach ache, came down with the chocoflu, and got injured x.x